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(CNN) – Gov. Chris Christie, R-New Jersey, is a politician who – unlike President Obama – likes to press the flesh, he likes to campaign.
"He loves being Chris Christie, political celebrity, which is what he's been for the last few years," said reporter Mark Leibovich, who profiled Christie for this week's New York Times Magazine.
"If he runs for president, he'll be out there again sort of in the middle of this orbit," said Leibovich.
"The question he's asking himself, and I think a lot of people are asking themselves, is how serious is he as a governor?" he said. "How nitty gritty is he willing to be as leader of this country?"
For more of our interview with the New York Times' Mark Leibovich, check out the video above.