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(CNN) – Espionage has been eating away at the relationship between the United States and Germany since last summer, when leaks from National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden revealed that the NSA had monitored the electronic data of millions of Germans, as well as the cellphone of Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Now, new allegations are flying after reports that a German intelligence worker was just arrested for allegedly selling more secrets to the U.S. intelligence community in a spy saga that may have spanned years.
Merkel says if the reports are true, it's a "clear contradiction" of trust.
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton told the German newspaper Der Speigel, that while it was "absolutely wrong' to spy on Merkel's phone, "the United States could never enter into a No-Spy agreement with any country - not you, not Britain, not Canada."
After World War II, there was a pact called "The 5 Eyes" between the U.S., Australia, Canada, Britain and New Zealand, promising not to spy on each other. Clinton's comment makes that pact sound like a joke.
"We obey that agreement. The CIA, National Security Agency doesn't spy on Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, ever. That was a red line we never crossed. There may be an exception, I doubt it," said CNN national security analyst and former CIA operative Bob Baer.
"That's just a fact and Clinton is wrong," he said.
For more of our interview with Bob Baer, check out the video above.