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Two days into the government shutdown in Washington, D.C., and there is still no end in sight.
The good news: Both sides actually met at the White House Wednesday. The bad news: All they did was butt heads.
Many right wing Republicans seem to have all their chips on defunding the Affordable Health Act, so-called Obamacare, and are refusing to budge.
Republican Congressman Devin Nunes, who said the shutdown is bad for the GOP and has publicly criticized his party for what he calls a "silly" strategy, said the shutdown gives Democrats a political advantage.
"The Democrats are giddy about this behind closed doors. I mean, they think that this is going to give (House Minority Leader) Nancy Pelosi back the gavel," said Nunes. "They're very cocky, very confident."
"They want to continue this. They want to keep the government shut down as long as they can. They're encouraging our folks to do it," said Nunes.
Nunes said his colleagues from across the aisle have privately told him that Democrats want to keep the government shut down.
Yes, said Nunes, Democrats are speaking "tongue in cheek. But I mean, look, Democrats believe in big government, no question. But this is benefiting them politically."
For more of our interview with Rep. Devin Nunes, R-California, watch the video above.